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You Can Always Get What You Want: A Rolling Stones Fan’s Over/Under

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This came from reader Stephen Sigl, who thought it was about time MAGNET had an Over/Under on the Rolling Stones.

I don’t interpret the Over/Under features in as harsh a light as most people seem to, just as long as there’s a distinction between the writer saying a song is “good but overrated” (as evidenced in the Built To Spill Over/Under)—this is good. Downright hostility toward someone’s guilty pleasure (Beck’s “Satan Gave Me A Taco”)—this is not so good. Being a Stones fan, I don’t dislike any of the overrated songs, but I do find them inessential. Here goes …

:: The Five Most Overrated Rolling Stones Songs
1. “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction”

Easily the most identifiable Stones songs ever. The riff has the legacy of being recorded by Keith Richards just before he passed out, the song was cut by the band on the fly sans horn overdubs, and it became a mega-hit despite lyrics that pushed radio standards of decency at the time. I don’t dispute this song’s greatness; it is on the top of the overrated list only because it is the one song that die-hard Stones fans generally forget exists until the encore.

2. The Brian Jones Era
Hipsters who are generally down on blues-based rock do not like the Stones after ’68. The infatuation with the Brian Jones era is clearly a fallen-idol/fashion issue. Unless you are still awed by ’60s idealism, there is no reason to place the Jones era above the other two.

3. “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”
This is probably the definitive example of a “classic song” that blows you away when you’re 14, but ends up as anathema by graduation. The length doesn’t help any, either. File under “Stairway To Heaven” for been there, done that.

4. “Wild Horses”
The best (and weirdest) analogy I can come up with for including this and “Satisfaction” on the overrated list is by admitting that I went to a Fugazi show about 10 years ago with some hard-core Fugazi fans and told them (at least more than once), “I hope they play ‘Waiting Room.'” That had to have been annoying, and that’s the criteria I’m using for this list.

5. “Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)”
The overt urban-funk, pre-disco wah-wah pedal workout from Goats Head Soup is the album’s weakest moment, exacerbated by the aggressively topical nature of the lyrics (a theme that reached its apex on “Little Indian Girl” off Emotional Rescue). This song still gets moderate airplay, though “Fingerprint File” from It’s Only Rock ‘N’ Roll is more deserving and feels more natural to its era.

:: The Five Most Underrated Rolling Stones Songs
1. “Luxury”

Could it be that a great riff, an unabashedly faux-Jamaican accent and a sense of novelty make this the unheralded gem off It’s Only Rock ‘N’ Roll? Or maybe it’s because some of the slower songs on that album tend to drag (“Time Waits For No-One,” “If You Really Want To Be My Friend”) that this song brings the pace up and, for some reason, always strikes me as being the most unrecognized, underplayed song in the Stones’ catalog.

2. “Winter”
The successor to “Moonlight Mile,” though the lyrics are not as abstract. It’s still amazing: Christmas imagery, references to past Kenneth Anger-induced occult practices (bell, book and candle … ) and Mick Jagger’s between-verses yelps (a la “Can’t You Hear Me Knocking”) add a sense of life to the overall dynamic, which is something the band has retained (on record) since Andrew Loog Oldham left.

3. The Ron Wood Era
Ron Wood’s tenure with the Stones marks their most critically maligned period. Only recently have people started to come around. Whether it’s Uncut magazine begrudgingly admitting a song from Undercover onto its 50-greatest-Stones-songs list or Rob Sheffield (of all people) praising Emotional Rescue. The Stones entered their “third” phase still willing to experiment musically but with no intention of playing it safe by conventional rock-star standards, which has got to be worth something.

4. “All The Way Down”
At a time when almost all their contemporaries were tailoring their music to the pre-30-something baby-boomer generation’s attempts to come to grips with its collective mortgage payments, the Stones released an ’80s album that, outside of a few concessions, stayed true to the consistent formula of succinct songwriting, great guitar playing and blatantly sexual lyrics. There’s an earthiness to Jagger’s singing that is a vibrant remnant of the Stones’ early-’70s heyday.

5. “Tops”
It’s always a revelation to hear someone mention that this song was recorded during the sessions for Exile, considering it has a sophistication no one listening to the Stones at the time would have expected. The soul element of the rhythm ‘n’ blues equation has always kept the Stones grounded in good songwriting and steered them clear of overbearing blues-rock banality.

8 replies on “You Can Always Get What You Want: A Rolling Stones Fan’s Over/Under”

Hey Stephen, You are a total dipshit. Pull your head out of Magnet’s ass & rethink your absolute ignorance. Now! Go on! Do it! JACK ASS

Hey Mavis, stop being an ass on the internet for no reason. It’s boring. Go slap your mom, fuck your fleshlight motion, or give someone with cerebral paulsey crystal meth.Just do something to keep your self esteem from fucking itself in the face and and writing anymore of your worthless opinions onto this board.

stephen, your “underrated” list makes me want to rev up my ipod’s stones playlist for the first time in ages, but your “overrated” list reads like a stones whore struggling to prove that he can still be critically minded about them (“hipsters who are generally down on blues-based rock” — what the?!) . . . but you essentially admitted to this in the intro, and it was very ballsy of you to include “satisfaction” and “wild horses” on that list . . . fyi, though: given the amount of groping, teenaged slow dancing that has gone down to it, “stairway to heaven” results in a “been there, done that” feeling that hits a lot of us with a pleasant tingling “below the belt” . . . that’s not something i would say about “you can’t always get what you want”

cocksucker blues!
most peeps never even heard of this one……..let’s mick shine in a homo erotic twisted pain passion kinda way. if you are lucky enough to have a splatter color 12 bootleg on vinyl ya get a killer alt version of brown sugar on the flip!
more underated stones
miss you
stray cat blues
undercover 12 inch and the line “like a jerky little gi joe!”
dead flowers

fs13

i walk around town singing “satisfaction” at a volume most unnapreciated, of coarse it deserves the top of the list. i fully endulge in that ritual when the mood arises… but you cant always get what u want…

First and 4-most this is a cunundrum an unsolvalbe riddle (spelling?)…however, I truly feel that we as a collective group of gloriously gathered human beings need to honor music…just you know embrace the beauty…right? I mean truly what is this talk of crystal meth and fleshlights…mother slapping..I agree that Mavis probably has a small penis, although, I am not one to judge…nor one to back out of a sword fight. I feel that if we all could come to terms with the preciousness of what Mr. Sigl has contributed here it would be a grand thing. Okay…this is difficult to share with you all, however, I must….it truly takes me 2 a very special place: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVi4PUx8bXk)…

I don’t envy you narrowing down Selections for the under list. I’m of the opinion that there is great stuff to all the eras of the band. Although I do admit that Dirty Work is the only studio album of theirs I never bothered to pick up.

(Heartbreaker) overrated? Atleast I’ll always have Bitch.

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